Episode 3: A Culture of Abuse

Stacie and Philip react to the impactful third episode of Breath of Fire. They look at the connection between money and abuse and discuss the power structure and culture of denial within 3HO and compare them to what occurred with Guru Jagat and the RA MA Institute.

 They examine how decades of abuse in 3HO were facilitated and explain that Yogi Bhajan grew his empire by using the skill and resources of his students to further his own gains — a philosophy he called “Other People’s Money” and “Other People’s Intelligence. The inability of Guru Jagat to do the same leads Philip and Stacie to categorize her and RA MA as a type of “junior” version of 3HO.

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